Get Shimano within a few clicks on the barrel adjuster and its good to go. The Dura-Ace rear mech includes the battery charge port and uses the Shadow design to wrap around the cassette. Direct-mount chainrings are available in 38t through 46t in two-tooth increments.Read more about the difference between 2x and 1x drivetrains on gravel bikes. BA1 1UA. The frame is made out of carbon and the condition is Brand New. Can its new 12-speed eTap AXS repeat the trick? Now, a more affordable little brother has joined the AXS family. Both SRAM RED and Force crank arms are carbon; SRAM RED having direct mount chainrings for 2x, and both SRAM RED and Force having a 1x spider that works with 1x 107mm BCD chainrings. This set-up has greater capacity than SRAM's and Shimano claims a range of 1000km between charges. The less pronounced jumps between gears make the best use of your efforts and create a more controlled cadence, as the seven 1-tooth jumps are between the gears you will use the most is better than anything currently available (bar a custom time-trial straight through cassette) and thats the Holy Grail for smoother pedaling. 121 people watching This 2022 BASIC Bikes Carbon Gravel Bike mit Rival AXS, Carbon Laufradsatz, Titanschrauben, leicht und schnell - Other SRAM is a frame size 52. About this item. Thats something you could have noted. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. While the electronics and all that have been improved to be faster, my experience was that the shifting itself felt the same as prior eTap. Hes been riding gravel since before gravel bikes existed too, riding a cyclocross bike through the Chilterns and along the South Downs. Meet Rival eTap AXS. Just dont pretend that either have been hitting the others nail on the head. The two most obvious material differences arefound in the brake levers and crank arms. There's an indicator light on the rear mech that indicates charge level and, like SRAM, you can also check battery status in the Shimano E-Tube app. Both of those features make the best fit possible for any rider. How does the new SRAM RED chain lifespan compare to SRAM's 11-speed SRAM RED chains? Real weight for the 1x Red eTap AXS full crankset including the 40T chainring is 510g. Specifications : Feature 1 Wide: tire clearance up to 700x45c and 27.5 x 2.1". Their mechanical 22 systems are flawless. Not sure where youre getting your info. These are then mounted onto the crank arm directly using a splined interface. SRAM Red eTap AXS and Shimano Dura-Ace are both now 12-speed and electronic only and both have wireless comms between the shifters and the derailleurs. SRAM Red eTap AXS XPLR drivetrain review The gravel variant of SRAM's top-tier shifting Our rating 4.0 USD $1,610.00 Rear derailleur, cassette, crankset By Warren Rossiter Published:. Just as the original eTap had plenty of innovative touches, so does the new kid in town. Granted, SRAM is a smaller company than Shimano. You can also pair Shimano's Di2 mountain bike derailleur and levers with Shimano's road equivalents. A lot to process. A radical drivetrain reinvention that feels every (gear)inch the future, Yes, I might have to learn a whole new set of gear ratios, but it opens up so much potential for experimenting with gear ranges, SRAM claims a 2.518kg complete weight for the group (and add 36g for the power meter), GBP 3,349.00 RRP Out of Stock. Based on SRAM's claimed weights for 2x disc brake groups without a power meter, the Rival AXS is 653 grams heavier than Red AXS, and 223 grams heavier than Force AXS. The Flattop design allows for a narrower chain without compromising strength or durability. Small gains in aerodynamics here or weight loss from a bikes chassis there are often breathlessly described as game-changing, when in fact theyre merely reasonable, expected gains brought about through refinement by clever sorts. Agreed. Subscribe from just 13.50 and get a Lezyne Pocket Drive Pump, worth 29! Rival AXS shifters pair with any other component in the AXS line-up, including Eagle AXS rear derailleurs, for riders interested in a wide-range mullet set-up a 10-50T cassette with a single chainring. The new brake rotors are the first SRAM has produced that are dedicated to the road, previously adopting designs from its extensive mountain bike line-up. The SRAM Red eTap AXS Shift-Brake Levers uses wireless electronic shifting to get the job done. A system that does exactly what you want, when you want. This narrower grip is possible because Rival eTap AXS doesnt have contact point adjustment for the brakes, and also does not allow for blips (auxiliary remote shift buttons). Whats the weight for the entire crankset? Not so much. Compatible with all other AXS components. To work out the range of a cassette divide the largest sprocket by the smallest and multiply by 100, and looking at the range of AXS the ranges are broader than traditional gearing. A new $249 spindle-based Quarq power meter. The Force eTap AXS group is slated for April 2019, and while we dont have tech details on yet, its a good bet it, too, will use the revised gearing. It is more important for R&D than for marketing. Its a little reminiscent of a BMX/Track half link, but these are full length links, The new XG-1290 cassette starts from a 10-tooth sprocket and is compatible with XD-R freehubs, The RED eTap AXS shifters are essentially the same shape as the previous shifter but with a carbon and chrome makeover and a new more ergonomic hood cover, AXS means both 1x and 2x drivetrains, but 1x doesnt just mean cross and gravel, SRAM also has this new 1x aero chainset for TT and triathlon with a spider mounted Quarq power meter option, The cross 1x chainset also has a power meter option, If youre not a fan of disc brakes SRAM also offers the new eTap with a rim brake option, A fluid damper built into the rear mech takes care of chain retention meaning eTap is now an option for cyclocross and gravel riders, With SRAMs AXS app (for iOS and Android) you can run firmware updates to the system (and power meter), look at battery levels, and assign actions to the shifters, as well as add-on blip controls and activate the shift modes, SRAMs reworking of gear ratios compared to its Shimano equivalents, SRAMs range of gearing offers a wider spread than we would have imagined, The new rear mech uses the exiting eTap battery as does the front mech, SRAM has finally produced a dedicated rotor for the road, and with its sculpted carrier and stainless (round-edged) brake track it looks the business, The new cassette keeps a close ratio of single-tooth jumps for the first seven sprockets, Ive been riding the new eTap for a few months now on Orbeas new Orca, which is available with the new eTap and Mavic Cosmic carbon Pro UST wheels and FSA K-Force carbon finsihing kit for 7,649. The lack of chain slap was nice, but as a complete system, the overall quietness of it surprised me. Gears 2x12SP. Note that the former gives you a 1:1 lowest ratio when paired to the wider range 11-34t cassette, matching SRAM's lowest range configuration. Shimano researches products until there is no compromise in performance. Adding a 12th sprocket to the cassette reduced the space in between the cogs, so SRAM designed a new 12-speed chain which it took as an opportunity to create the distinctive looking flattop chain now in use. Winning my award for Most Improved Front Derailleur category isdrum roll pleasethe front derailleur! SRAM's eTap AXS components, in contrast, are wireless. There's also a 54/40t chainset available. Force uses this same spider for the 2x system, making it easy to swap chainrings from 2x to 1x with the swap of chainrings and chainring bolts only. SRAM RED and Force AXS rear derailleurs use Orbit Fluid Dampers to prevent dropped chains and chain noise on rough roads. The other really interesting part of the new AXS group is the sequential and compensating shifting options. Some were smooth, but there were plenty of riddled washboard sections that would rattle your bones. Weight: 135g; Additional contact mail (leave blank)* Firstly, theres sequential; when you activate the next available gear it will automatically actuate the front derailleur to keep the ratio change even between shifts, and therefore keep your cadence steady. Here they are. Scope of delivery: 1x SRAM RED XG-1290 rainbow 12-speed cassette. Expect a full test of this new Orca soon, but Ill just say its a bike thats every bit as impressive as the gearing its running. The only / or last one I can remember that looks decent are the original XX double MTB cranks. This refers to the number of times the back wheel rotates for each full turn of the pedals. Electronic drivetrains are the future of cycling, and for the last two years, SRAMs wireless Red eTap AXS and Force eTap AXS groups have been at the top of the food chain. DOT fluid is more resistant to boiling than mineral oil and SRAM says the DOT 5.1 fluid it recommends has a boiling point of 270C when dry. This design allows any chainset in the range to be easily upgraded to use a power meter from sister brand Quarq. It's not a lightweight choice, but it compares extremely well with. If I do go down the AXS path this year, I think an Easton crank might be the way to go. Heres how it works. Note: SRAM eTap component weights includes batteries because batteries all weigh the same. I just wish a little devils advocacy were present in your review. The pistons also retract 10% more than the previous generation callipers to help reduce the likelihood of brake rub. AXS app allows users to customize shift options. This increases the tension in the lower segment of chain and stops it falling off the chainring. 36T: 36T=5mm / 33T=5mm / 30T=10mm / 28T=12mm (chain in largest sprocket) Cycling activity Bidex Code 202110 Category Road Main . Shifting is actuated by switches on the brake levers, which send a signal to the derailleurs to do their thing. SRAM Red eTAP Groupset Weights Notes on SRAM Groupset Components All weights are taken from SRAM. Hes been cycling for a lot longer than that though and his travels by bike have taken him all around Europe and to California. To some extent this was because of the new chain but also because of the new rear mech's oil-filler damper technology, Orbit, that prevents it from moving on hard, jarring impacts. Rival AXS shifters have a new, revised shape, designed to fit hands of all sizes and provide powerful braking from both the hoods and drops. By signing up for email newsletters, you agree to BikeRumor's, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to email a link to a friend (Opens in new window). Shimano R9200 brakes use Servo Wave tech, again ported from its MTB range, that gives you progressive brake action that is more aggressive at the end of the stroke and lighter when you're just feathering the brakes. The difference between Shimano and Sram is that SRAM accepts compromise in order to innovate. It's very intuitive and avoids the risk of mis-shifts from hitting the wrong lever. SRAM says that it's engineered its chainrings to up their longevity by 50% over its older 11-speed groupsets. The move to 12-speed could have been just another trinket to get people to part with their hard-earned cash, but what SRAM has achieved with eTap and its fresh approach to modern bike drivetrains could well be the shape of things to come. Thanks! The intuitive simplicity of SRAM RED eTap with an added performance of hydraulic road disc brakes (HRD). The Rival rear derailleur, for example, has steel bearings, steel hardware, and an aluminum pulley cage. Rival cassettes feature a different construction. It uses the same batteries as the eTap but the design looks more robust and angular, and is also running on larger X-Sync pulleys and ceramic bearings under the surface. Proven AXS technology at a more affordable price. Clicking on the right-hand button moves the rear derailleur to larger sprockets, while a click on the left-hand button takes you to smaller sprockets. I hope that puts it into perspective. By pairing these to smaller chainrings, SRAM has been able to provide more gear range at the back that exceeds the top and bottom gearing of traditional ratios, as well as seven consecutive one tooth changes. Namely, the clutched rear derailleur. The new Rival Quarq power meter is also a departure from the spider-based Quarq power metersfound on Force and Red. Wolf Tooth is working on one but its a little further out. You can add me to the 12s mechanical waiting list. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. Plus the cost of consumable parts like the chainrings? Short for 10-26 up to 10-33T / Medium for 10-28 up to 10-36T Weight without battery 36T Version Rear derailleur max. The brake levers are aluminum, and the lever reach is adjustable so you can personalize your fit. 2023 SRAM Force AXS & XPLR groups updated with lighter, better tech. Liam Cahill / Our Media Thanks for the thoughtful response. I love my shimano road group, and when I have sram on one mtb and shimano on the other. We found that this makes it easier to ride in a tucked aero position due to better grip. Gone is the two-ring design held in place by bolts on a spider. No mention of the throw-away crankset + power meter when you need or want new rings, no mention of the need to replace your hubs to work with XDR, coin batteries in the shifters, 10 tooth cog.the list goes on. Other aspects? SRAM now gives you the 50/37t chainrings previously reserved for Red, but the test bike was specced with smaller 48/35t rings - SRAM's version of the mid-compact chainset. SO many people ride and love to ride the 1st gen etap. You will not be able to swap between 2x and 1x set-ups like you can with the Force and Red cranksets. > Also, Ive already built 3 different bikes with the group After three years riding the original eTap in its various rim and disc brake guises Ive been very impressed. What is the shift speed like? Hit both together and you'll initiate a front shift. To reduce costs, there is a slight weight penalty. Hes also a regular presenter on the BikeRadar Podcast and on BikeRadars YouTube channel. Rival AXS provides a more affordable alternative to the Force eTap AXS group and the top-of-the-line Red eTap AXS group. And, hes totally gone down the NFT rabbit hole. The reason why is because there is a host of different wire length + junction options and weight will fluctuate with setup. I ride mile after mile on 50/34 chain rings, and the best part is that I dont have to throw away my power meter if I want a change. The AXS technology allows you to make your shifters do what you want them to, and the brake levers have a customizable reach. It's worth noting though that Shimano's rear mechs also come packed full of tech, including the brand's Shadow design which is borrowed from its mountain bike groupsets. The higher boiling point should make a DOT fluid-based system more stable, says SRAM, leading to longer periods between brake system bleeds. The two biggest differences from Di2 are that Red eTap shifting is wireless, and the AXS incarnations has 12 sprockets on the rear hub, with a significantly different approach to gearing centered on its 10-tooth smallest sprocket. Since then, hes reviewed hundreds of bikes and thousands of other pieces of cycling equipment for the magazine and the Cycling Weekly website. SRAM clutch mechs are fixed tension, while Shimano ones have an on/off switch and user-adjustable tension. Each shifter operates on a CR2032 coin cell which should last for around two years. I think lots of the coverage is skipping the cost of this new group set. The larger clearance to the middle of the bottom bracket also benefits very wide tires. The Orbit Fluid Damper provides chain retention using fluid resistance. However, on the road side it lacks any type of damper or clutch. The fact that the rings are machined together is a huge issue to me. Red eTap AXS: MSRP $1,453-2,690. A Force eTap AXS group with a similar set-up weighs 2,600 grams, a difference of 183 grams. But as is, Ill need someone to assuage my valid concerns about the direction SRAM is taking. While there were pavement and gravel riding opportunities, gravel was the right choice to drive home some of the key new features of the group. Another smart move SRAM made was ensuring launch day delivery of parts, with a number of brands ready to go with new AXS-equipped models for road, gravel, monstercross and triathlon. Weight 169g. The rest of it looks great but I find the cranks really unattractive. It also has considerable weight savings compared to the NX groupset (about 300 g) and carbon and alloy crank options. It uses SRAMs narrow-wide direct-mount X-SYNC chainrings that provide chain retention in rough terrain. ya know with no cranks or hubs available. Id only add that if EVERY media outlet is reporting nothing but positives, Id say its a pretty good indication of the groups merits. Beginners or triathletes pure gold right there! Also, Ive already built 3 different bikes with the group and have yet to run into compatibility problems. First of all, lets talk about that 12th sprocket. Shimano meanwhile has a single central battery that's usually mounted in the bike's seat tube and powers both derailleurs via wires. Personally, Id probably not use this option very much, but its fun to experiment with. Wireless is amazing but the shift speed? Force uses 11-26 cassette. SRAM's new wireless RED eTap AXS road groupset has 12 gears, approaches road gearing in a totally new way, is available in either 1x or 2x setups and features a clutch. Although the shift speed increase is greater at the rear, it's more noticeable at the front. SRAM Force eTap AXS groupset options, weights, and pricing are as follows; Force eTap AXS 1X Electronic Road Groupset Rim (1,983g): RRP AU$2099 Force eTap AXS 2X Electronic Road Groupset Rim (2,453g): RRP AU$2,779 Force eTap AXS 1X Electronic HRD Groupset (2,572g): RRP AU$2,779 Force eTap AXS 2X Electronic HRD Groupset (2,812g): RRP AU$3,399 Wouldnt besurprised if were waiting a while, they probably need to make some money back on axs. Well, I only rode the one bike with the one combo, but yes, Id say so. That makes them more agile but less capable. With the exception of a brake warranty issue (albeit a pretty big one), this is hardly the truth. Already have an account with us? Who knows, thats why we have a long term review bike/group to test. https://www.sram.com/stories/19-road-team-roster. Shift speed, to me, is a critical determinant in any drivetrain, and Red failed in my view in that regard. This groupset shifts from a more traditional 11-speed cassette arrangement to a 12-speed cassette configuration. Or not being able to use your wheels without swapping out parts on them? SRAM says that this ability to absorb water is an advantage if you do get damp in your brakes, as it means that it's less likely there will be free water droplets in the hoses than with an oil-based system, where it would boil at 100C and so potentially impact performance. Let's take a look: Derailleur weight is the only functional difference in SRAM's AXS line. I have a nice spreadsheet analysis, but I cant post attachments here. they executed that new xtr real well. It can be used with 1x or 2x drivetrains and is compatible with all X-Range cassette options fitting up to a 36-tooth cog. You can also buy a separate power meter spider as an upgrade to a non-power meter chainset. There is something to be said for just being the best out there and sometimes that requires breaking changes that screw up compatibility. SRAM's hoods house the hydraulic brake reservoirs as well as the shifter electronics. Still seems a little rich for my blood especially when ultegra di2 shift groups can be found for 800 bucks new and the replacement parts are cheap for when you crash. So, I do think SRAM is onto something here, and I wouldnt be at all surprised to see other chainring manufacturers following suit. Both are programmable with built-in Bluetooth, both are focused on disc brakes but also offer a rim brake option and both let you add an in-series power meter. SRAM expects Rival eTap AXS to be spec'd on complete bikes in the $3,500 to $4,000 range. Msrp $764 Model ID RD-RED-E-D1 Features No crank, no cassette, no chain. I rode Force 22 for years before switching to a bike with DA 9150, and Id swap back to Force in a second. With 48/35t chainrings, 175mm cranks, a 10-30t cassette, and hydraulic disc brake calipers, the claimed weight of a complete Rival eTap AXS group is 2,783 grams. You should get around 60 hours of riding on a charge, with each derailleur having an indicator light that shows green, red then flashing red to show battery level. The lack of any real critical analysis here is disappointing and lacks any credibility. SRAM Rival eTap AXS vs. Force vs. Red - Weight Comparison & More, The Best Carbon Road Bikes Marked Down Now, Best-Selling Bikes of 2022: Road, Mountain, Gravel & More, Get Up To Speed: The Best Road Bikes For Beginners, Read more about the difference between 2x and 1x drivetrains. From ingredients to timing, dosage to frequency, heres a quick masterclass in ride fueling and recovery that goes far beyond their products, talking through the science to help you ride harder, longer & faster! As the name suggests it isnt a new standard but something that works across the myriad press-fit standards and traditional designs (BB30, PF30, BBright, PF30a, 386, PF86.5, GXP and BSA). 124K views 1 year ago Is Shimano Ultegra Di2 the best electronic groupset to buy in 2021, and how does it compare to its main rival, SRAM Force eTap AXS? Newer Post , Get early access to sales and new products, South Georgia & South Sandwich Islands (GS $). FWIW, Ive asked several times when the mechanical 12-speed groups are coming and only getting radio silence, so Im guessing they simply dont want to spoil the surprise. They use a CR1632 coin cell each with a similar battery life of around two years. We've got full reviews of our experience of riding both SRAM Red eTap AXS and Shimano Dura-Ace R9200, but if you're not sure which is for you and want a more direct comparison read on. Im actually pretty open minded. Manage Settings Will that luster hold up? Every review of axs so far is pure fluff. The Red eTap AXS 10-33 cassette weighs 215g. The brake/shift levers are bloody awful too. Shimano's is also the cheaper groupset albeit only marginally, saving you around 90 at full retail price. You can only applaud SRAM for having the courage to take on decades of accepted standards and come up with something thats not just new, but has purpose with it. After experimenting with both automation settings, I was impressed with the sequential operation, where you can forget about front mech operations and just let the bike take care of it. This is the increased weight of using the hydraulic calipers and hydraulic shifters. With the latest R9200 version of Dura-Ace released in 2021 there are more similarities between the two road bike groupsets than there were, but plenty of differences still. SRAM Red eTap AXS This is the option for you if you want no wires Specifications Speeds: 1x12, 2x12 Chainrings: 46/33T, 48/35T, 50/37T, 36T, 38T, 40T, 42T, 44T, 46T, 48T, 50T Cassettes:. The weight differences come down to materials and construction. Suplests 2023 cycling shoe lineup has sleek options for road, gravel, XC, and trail, and they all look amazing. SRAM unleashed a whole new concept of gearing and gear ratios as part of the new group, and it will almost certainly inform future products as well. Shimano is rolling out special editions for gravel and road. Most of the downsides with AXS clearly arent going to be present with a brand new drivetrain. Hiding under the hood, though, are a big collection of incremental running changes that have been added to both Red and Force groups over the years and finally getting codified here. If you want to ditch the front derailleur altogether or fit even wider tires, there is also a single-ring Rival 1 wide crankset. You can also buy a single ring chainset or power meter with chainring sizes from 36t to 50t. Its rather odd that sluggish shifting was the biggest complaint that a lot of people had about eTap v1, and it seems like SRAM hasnt addressed it to any significant degree. According to srams website, when that happens, they will discount it by 50% but its still seems like added complexity when a spider based system works fine.